According to Headphones Addict Airpods generated $1.76B in the first full year of 2017, and are widely considered a success by now.
At $3500 that's around 285k units.
If Apple launch more headsets with VisionOS they also count toward the revenue.
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3.00Suggestions for this question to resolve YES.
https://www.macobserver.com/news/apple-vision-pro-sales-match-pre-launch-estimates/
These guys seem more skeptical? https://arinsider.co/2024/10/29/how-many-vision-pros-will-apple-sell-this-year/
Has anyone seen more reliable figures? I expect to go with a best guess (projections plus estimates) that this can resolve YES, and that we won't ever get an Apple number on 2024 sales.
@HenriThunberg I am sceptical of that 370k sales figure.
For a more sceptical view perhaps
https://www.eurogamer.net/apple-vision-pro-3500-headset-reportedly-no-longer-in-production-as-stock-piles-up
Apple reportedly believes it has now manufactured enough components to meet the Vision Pro's overall expected lifetime sales, which are lower than expected.
That seems to make more sense than your first link saying
"The company may halt production of the current version entirely by year-end, probably because of the lack of sufficient inventory to meet foreseeable demand."
If the demand was present they would order more parts.
One reason I am sceptical of 370k sales figure is
Q1 ~100k
Q2 ~ 80k
500k part supplied enough for lifetime sales. Wow! In that case, that 370k seems surprisingly high. How would that work? 190k in Q3 and remainder of life only 130k suggests we should have a new version very soon . Doesn't ring true to me.
Tailing off demand after initial surge of interest and preorders being filled as assembled at beginning? Seems more likely.
Even flat sales rate 180k /6 months * 10 months is only 300k.
Why the acceleration in sales? Perhaps production ramping up after some difficulties with production is a possible explanation but then why a drop from Q1 to Q2?
370k seems more like an assembled parts number but lots unsold.
Of course it could be the 370k is correct and the other figures and/or info suggesting tailing off demand are wrong. Could be wrong in other ways too.
Another more sceptical view
https://sherwood.news/tech/apple-vision-pros-us-sales-drop-quarter-over-quarter/
"Expects sales to drop 76% QonQ"
An explanation for this pattern could be that once production has delivered the pre-order queue then there is not much demand to fill.
Under this scenario, things like "has now manufactured enough components to meet the Vision Pro's overall expected lifetime sales" seems much more plausible.
While the 370k sales might be right, I think sub 285k is also possible and we should wait for further info.
@ChristopherRandles thanks for pushing back, and taking time to do so well!
Happy to let this one live for longer. I am a bit uncomfortable with the fact that I'm holding a somewhat large (for me) YES position (in hindsight, I should have abstained trading), but expect us to jointly be able to hold resolution to a high standard :)
Related markets / potential arbitrage opportunities:
150K headsets sold in 2024: https://manifold.markets/JacksonWagner/will-apple-sell-more-than-150k-visi
285K: https://manifold.markets/HenriThunberg/will-vision-pro-and-other-apple-hea-fee5899b9ba1
50th percentile estimate, currently 320K: https://manifold.markets/whalelang/how-many-units-will-apples-vision-p ...markets with thresholds below this 50th percentile estimate (150K and 285K) should IMO be above 50%; markets with higher thresholds (500K+) should be lower than 50%, or else this market (currently 320K) should move a lot.
500K: https://manifold.markets/ian/will-apple-sell-more-than-500k-mr-h
575K: https://manifold.markets/HenriThunberg/will-vision-pro-and-other-apple-hea
750k: https://manifold.markets/ian/will-apple-sell-more-than-750k-mr-h
850K: https://manifold.markets/HenriThunberg/will-vision-pro-and-other-apple-hea-ecd06df8baab
1400K: https://manifold.markets/HenriThunberg/will-vision-pro-and-other-apple-hea-6ba0eda02079
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