What will be true of the Manifold Dating app (Manifold Love)?
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At least 3 of the first 10 reported serious relationships resulting from it will not be straight
19%
Someone will form a harem
16%
Someone will marry a person they found using the app
16%
I will find it easier to get good dates on the Manifold app than on Hinge
13%
@toms will go on a date within 6 months of launch due to it
5%
There will be at least 1000 (active) profiles on March 30th
5%
It will be an independent app on iOS App Store before 2025
1.6%
There will be at least 1500 (active) profiles on March 30th
Resolved
YES
It will be "awesome" according to James
Resolved
YES
Someone will go on an in-person date
Resolved
YES
A biological woman will sign up before November
Resolved
YES
A market will resolve before December 1st
Resolved
YES
Someone will have a video chat or date with someone else on the platform, because of the platform, before December
Resolved
YES
It will launch by March 2024
Resolved
YES
Its Male:Female ratio will be above 66% on March 1st, 2024
Resolved
YES
Its [straight bio-male]:[straight bio-female] ratio will be above 66% (2:1) by March 2024
Resolved
YES
There will be a signup button on https://manifold.love that works; before November
Resolved
YES
Over ten percent of women on the platform will be transgender on March 2024.
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N/A
It will - at some point in the future - either exist or not exist.
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N/A
On November 1st, 2023, I will not be able to find a series of button-clicks that leads to a 500 error.

https://manifold.love

Please add your own answers! I will judge them all when appropriate!

This is the first "independent" multiple choice market!


See the proposal for "Manifold Dating" here:

https://manifold.markets/JamesGrugett/will-manifold-dating-reach-1000-dai#pSWjKL8lDZdwNvnoRL8x

Will "Manifold Dating" reach 1000 daily active users (7d average) by Feb 14, 2024?
12% chance. Manifold is mulling a new product, perhaps hosted at manifold.love, which takes aim at the dating market. The site would feature one prediction market per dating profile that asks: "Who will I date for 6 months?" In a first, we would leverage crowdsourced betting to surface the top matches for each person, based on real predictions of how long their relationship would last. Read my full writeup here! Excerpts are below. Super interested in what the Manifold community thinks about this proposal. Let's iterate on the design to make it as strong as possible. At Manifest, Robin Hanson urged us to find a high-value use case for prediction markets. He suggested markets on which candidate to hire. But markets on who should date might be even higher value (and more fun)! Thesis Matching people into relationships is a killer use case for prediction markets because: It is fun for traders, which means people will be motivated to bet and thus create accurate forecasts Accurate forecasts of relationships are super valuable Betting on love is fun Aella’s and Shelvacu’s markets got a giant amount of traction (the biggest two at Manifest!) Proof School’s original popular markets were betting on relationships continuing Austin’s OG markets on getting a girlfriend and marrying Rachel were some of the site’s most popular People can’t look away. They even will bet on people’s relationships when they don’t know them personally. It’s too fun. Prediction markets are an ideal solution to matchmaking Prediction markets allow crowdsourced betting on who should date who with feedback from actual outcomes. Those bets will produce accurate forecasts, going on Manifold’s strong track record. Matchmaking is a forecasting problem, so let’s use the most powerful forecasting tool! How it might work Users opt-in to create dating profiles One main prediction market per person: “Who will I date for 6 months?” Free response market constrained to dating profiles on Manifold. Resolves to next such person you date for 6 months Subsidized liquidity (M2000?) Created when you first fill out your profile. Custom UI for browsing and betting on dating profiles A table view with one row per person, standard info in columns, link to full profile (or opens in sidebar on desktop) Select two people and bet on their relationship success For each person, show the market’s top three matches (and let you bet on them directly from the table view) Filtering, sorting, pinning potential matches via checkbox, leaving notes Principles Matchmaking is betting, and everyone can play matchmaker Empower matchmakers Give them the UI and tools to be effective Public dating profiles with high information drive better crowdsourced decisions Kickstart a flourishing ecosystem of fun secondary dating markets The hope is that by doing the main matchmaking through markets, people will be more willing to create lots and lots of secondary markets on aspects of their dating lives. And they will be hilarious and super engaging E.g. Will we kiss tonight? Where will we go for our date? Will our relationship last two weeks? Will he propose this year? How many children will we have by 2030? Privacy where possible (Not 100% on this yet) Dating profiles won’t by default be linkable and shareable. You can only find them in the table with everyone else Allows people to feel freer to include more about themselves Dating profiles will not by default be linked to your Manifold account. Can use a pseudonym Encourage evolving community sophistication at matchmaking Matchmakers will learn what questions to ask daters (comment section on dating profile) Daters will fill in more information over time based on what is helpful With DM’s (private 1:1 chat), traders can ask about character flaws too sensitive to broadcast publicly
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Can we resolve these two NO? This market is becoming ancient

@toms did you go on a date because of Manifold Love? If so, did it happen during April or earlier?

@Tumbles Resolves no

@mods manifold love is inarguably mostly defunct. The word 'mostly' removes any doubt about the resolution

agreed. let's not linger on it

reposted

@JamesGrugett Why was this N/A'd? Did your artificial superintelligence tell you to?

@Pykess That was supposed to be a reply to the "it will prove prediction markets ..." answer.

@Pykess I don't think there was an objective way to resolve that answer

@JamesGrugett how so? Markets were telling you it would not work, but you went ahead and did it anyway. Sounds spot on.

@Odoacre A low chance of success does not mean it's not worth doing. The 1000 daily active users by Feb 14th market got as high as 16-17% chance after extensive trading for a very ambitious goal.

Thanks for the reminder. I will now go resolve the regret market to NO haha.

sold Ṁ27 NO

@JamesGrugett It was only that high because you bet a huge amount of mana on it...

@Shump Not true. I only bet to 10% or maybe 12%. Check the trade history!

@JamesGrugett You bought 666 thousand shares. Even if you bought them low, you prevented the market from going lower with massive investments. At that price, it means you had more than 500k mana bet against you.

To put that into perspective, that's about as much mana as Marcus, by far the biggest whale, had at that time, and about 5% of the entire mana of Manifold. If that's not a market-warping amount I don't know what is.

@JamesGrugett in addition to shump's point, which I agree with, there's a couple other minor ways a 12% order distorts the price.

  • Fear that you have insider knowledge or the inclination to game the stats with your insider powers: e.g. a Valentine's marketing blitz that lets ManLove squeak over the line.

  • Traders will be hesitant to buy too low if there's a potential for another huge James limit order to drop at a higher price

@Shump if this isn't the clearest case that this answer should've resolved YES, idk what is

bought Ṁ50 YES

Seems like active development stopped last month but was just announced today?

@june Yup.

Are there a time limit for this?

@AmmonLam 10 years? Haha

Are there a time limit for this? Until Manifold.love become defunct?

@AmmonLam I'll give it the rest of 2024 as a reasonable cut off

@JamesGrugett Just one more clarifying question:

by the end of 2024 if no one had spent 6 months with partner found from Manifold it resolves No?

or by the end of June 2025 if no one had spent 6 months with partner found from Manifold it resolves No?

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