Will any explicitly leftist, pro-Palastine US organization or individual kill a Jewish person in the US before 2025?
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The killing does not have to be strictly because they're Jewish, but it must be for something related, like their support for Israel. Or if it's unclear what the motive was, that must seem likely.

If the death was accidental that still counts if the violence was intentional. e.g. someone burns down a building and doesn't realize there's someone inside. But if it's completely accidental, like a peaceful and nonthreatening rally that causes a neurotic Jewish person to have a heart attack out of fear, or getting into a car accident with a Jew, that doesn't count.

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Not so sure. The guy recovered and there are not so many months left in the year.

Ah, but they're back to campus soon.

Unfortunately that's true. But the war is winding down. Also maybe they want to shut up during election season, or maybe they're just happy to help Trump win.

I mean, it's winding down when there's actual negotiations. But even still, there's the northern front. ("Won't anyone think of Hezbollah?!?!!!") And, well, from what I've seen, it's a decent split. Some of them just want Trump to win / want to do virtue signaling (ugh, I hate the term) / purity testing, some are sick of it and want to actually shut the protestors down, and feel like they're a bunch of chaos agents who aren't ever satisfied. So we'll see.

There won't be a negotiated end of the war, just Hamas ground down until it's a minor insurgency. I am not so sure that Hezbollah is a big motivator for these kinds of things the way Hamas is. Hezbollah is not Palestinians. This stabbing came right after Israel killed a bunch of Hamas commanders (and "100 civilians" according to the Hamas-run Ministry of Health). Fewer and fewer of those kinds of things as time goes on.

Eh, some ceasefire will be negotiated, I think Israel's in too precarious a spot internationally to not. It may have to be with Abbas or Barghouti though.

And Hezbollah has definitely been a motivator online, if only because people don't know shit about it, and it's portrayed as Israel just randomly going after another country.

I don't think Israel will negotiate a ceasefire. And Abbas and Barghouti (and Dahlan and the UAE etc) don't run Hamas. If you mean Israel dismantles Hamas and agrees with some reasonably trustworthy Arab actors on some way of governing Gaza, then that will happen sure. That's not a "ceasefire", it's a Hamas defeat.

If Abbas or Barghouti or whoever are taking security responsibility I think ultimately it becomes six of one, half dozen of the other.

Barghouti taking security responsibility is not happening. He called for a Third Intifada.

He's moderated since. It'll be fiiiiiiined. :P

If he really has moderated, then he will be an ineffective leader, totally unable to take on the Hamas types. Look if anyone other than Israel really has security responsibility in Gaza, it will be the Gulf states. Not any Palestinians. The PA is reliant on Israel to prevent Hamas from overthrowing it in the West Bank.

I believe his current stance is Mandela-esque. He'd prefer to go after infrastructure, but will go after soldiers if necessary. Doesn't want to go after civilians.

To what end? A real sustainable two-state peace that will really last? Or unlimited "refugees" until Israel is gone? The latter...

Good luck convincing Hamas not to go after civilians.

Honestly not sure. Insofar as it's the latter I think it's going to be closer to Tabah than unlimited right of return. But I'm honestly not sure what he's said.

How do you intend to ascertain "explicitly leftist"? After all, some right-libertarians describe Nazis as "leftist".

Left/right labels are socially constructed, I'll go by what most people think of each as meaning. Nazis are far-right.

Radical Islamist terrorists are not leftist, right? So if someone yells "Allahu Akbar" and attacks some Jews, that's right-wing.

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@SemioticRivalry (On Nov 5th 2023)

@CamillePerrin it also sounds like there's some significant dispute about what happened - if this had happened after market but Alnaji was later acquitted, how would the market handle that?

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@MattLashofSullivan What's in dispute?

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@IsaacKing

In the ongoing investigation, eyewitness statements and video evidence clash over what caused Kessler to fall. Alnaji’s lawyer, Ron Bamieh, asserts that multiple witnesses are wrong in their statements, citing a video that shows Alnaji about 7 or 8 feet from Kessler when he fell.

“One eyewitness said Alnaji hit him over the head with his bullhorn, which is just not true, according to the video,” Bamieh said.

Prior to the fall, Bamieh said Kessler was hurling profanities at the Palestinian protesters while recording with his phone. Alnaji approached Kessler and attempted to knock the phone from his hand with a megaphone, possibly hitting him on the chin. Alnaji backed off after this confrontation.

Bamieh is confident that this video will exonerate his client from the charges.

https://sundial.csun.edu/177245/news/csun-professor-arrested-under-suspicion-of-death-of-protester/

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@Gabrielle obviously this is all tangential to this market since it happened prior; but it illustrates the difficulties here.

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