When will Manifold Markets allow users to partially resolve multiple choice markets
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30
Ṁ12k
2028
1.4%
Jun-July 2023
1%
Aug-Sep 2023
1.3%
Oct-Dec 2023
1.3%
Jan-May 2024
30%
June-Dec 2024
27%
2025
14%
2026-2027
24%
not before 2028

This question asks when manifold markets will allows market creators to partially resolve multiple choice markets by marking certain answers as NO while keeping the market open for the remaining options.

To qualify this feature has to

  • be available on the public version of Manifold Markets

  • be available to basically all users (not just admins/trustworthy-ish users)

  • work on all unresolved "new-style" multiple choice markets that exist today (the ones created after 14 June 2023 where you can bet no and set limit orders).

  • Pay out NO shares for the chosen options immediately and make sure you cannot bet on those options anymore.

  • [EDIT Jan 2024] It has to apply to the markets where only 1 answer can be chosen. The newer markets where multiple answers can be chosen are not sufficient for YES.

For this market, it does not need to support resolving answers to a certain probability.

This market will resolve to the moment this feature is live on Manifold Markets. I will use (DST adjusted) U.S. Pacific time in this market, since that seems to be the timezone of most MM admins. It will resolve to "not before 2028" at the start of 2028 or when a admin officially states that this feature (or one of the criteria specified in this market) will not be implemented.

Beware: answers further in the future have longer time intervals!

I will not bet on this market.

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bought Ṁ1,000 YES

@Stralor oops got a bit excited

Arbitrage: the sum of the probability of dates before 2024 in this market (currently 40%) and the question in the embedded market (currently 59%) are asking about the same thing. That's a difference of 19 percentage points, so one of these markets is way off.

Edit: never mind, they're not quite predicting the same thing. This market should definitely be lower than the embedded one.

@evergreenemily To be fair, the requirements in this market are more strict: it has to apply to existing markets.

@FlorisvanDoorn Ah, gotcha. I think this one being lower makes sense, then - though I also think its new cumulative probability of 51% is still accurate.

@FlorisvanDoorn
Oh that does change my prediction now I realize it. So far, major new features introduced have mostly not applied to markets created before the new feature.

@Joshua See my comment below about this. I think that something like this that can be done in a backward compatible way, will be added to existing markets.
For example, I believe that the first attempt of the feature to allow adding answers to markets (that was only live for a few hours, because you could make free mana with it) was enabled for existing markets.

@FlorisvanDoorn Yeah, I don't see any reason this feature wouldn't work for existing markets.

Please resolve June-July 2023 to NO

@JoshuaWilkes I hope you're joking :-)

@FlorisvanDoorn I am

Although

After my joke I did notice what I think is a flaw in your description

Based on how Manifold seems to roll out new functionality out it's very plausible that 'partially resolve' will only be available on markets created after the roll out date.

This seems to create some risk that you'd have to resolve NO when the spirit of the question has been met.

@JoshuaWilkes I am aware of this possibility, and this choice was deliberate.
The question I really wanted to ask is whether I will be able to partially resolve some of my own markets that I've already created, and so this market reflects that.

That said, I think that some of the new functionalities were added only to newly created markets because they were not backwards compatible: (1) markets where you could bet NO used a different formula for shares, and (2) markets where you can add answers require and "other" answer. In both cases existing markets couldn't just be transferred to the new system. I think this feature is different, and could equally well be added to existing markets (at least, as far as I can see).

If you think it's good, I can add the word "existing" to the title: "[...] resolve existing multiple choice markets"

@FlorisvanDoorn I don't particularly think that's necessary. People can and should read the description and it didn't stop me betting. I was just airing something in case you hadn't thought of it

Soon, I hope. I'd really like to be able to do this.

@evergreenemily get a dev to bet NO on June/July and you'll be golden for August. 🙃

@evergreenemily This feature would also be very useful for this market 😄

answers further in the future have longer time intervals!

yesss another creator on team geometric scaling!

Why do people think this is likely so soon? This suggestion has been made at least a year ago I think, and I think it's good but far from the most important improvement to multiple choice.

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